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9th Oct 2025

Book Episode #8: Part Four - The Dawn of Everything, by David Graeber & David Wengrow (Chapter 5)

Our Journey with 'The Dawn of Everything': Unpacking Chapter 5

In this episode of 'The Propaganda Loves You Book Club,' the hosts discuss Chapter 5 of 'The Dawn of Everything' by David Graeber and David Wengrow. They delve into topics such as the complex history of slavery among indigenous groups on the western seaboard of North America, particularly comparing Californian foragers and their Canadian neighbors. The conversation explores key concepts including modes of production, schismogenesis, and social death. They also critically examine how modern societal structures and individual behaviors are influenced by historical modes of hierarchy and equality. The discussion emphasizes the importance of conscious political choices and reflects on whether aspects like wealth accumulation and individual freedom truly lead to an equitable society.

00:00 Getting Ready for the Show

00:48 Introduction to the Book Club

01:15 Exploring Chapter Five: Many Seasons Ago

02:24 Modes of Production and Cultural Choices

03:21 Key Arguments and Reflections

04:17 Comparing Indigenous Societies

11:29 Philanthropy and Capitalism

18:14 Slavery in Indigenous Societies

23:14 Modern Parallels and Wage Slavery

24:40 Defining US Culture Through Schmo Genesis

34:01 Exploring Self-Conscious Choices in Sports

34:21 Defining Slavery Across Societies

35:32 The Concept of Social Death

37:07 Modern Comparisons to Historical Slavery

40:08 Capitalism and Social Death

43:33 The Scale of Societal Control

45:56 Historical Perspectives on Freedom and Slavery

58:05 The Role of Family in Political Views

01:06:18 Final Thoughts and Looking Ahead

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